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trailergod
08-26-2002, 02:55 PM
http://www.dvddebate.com/r1news.php#Terminator%202%20-%20The%20Ultimately%20Ultimate%20Edition?

Artisan's President Of Sales & Marketing has announced that they will be releasing yet another "Special Edition" version of Terminator 2: Judgement Day to coincide with the theatrical release of Terminator 3 next year. There was no mention as to what the DVDs will contain.

What more could they put in this new package that isn't already in the spectacular Ultimate Edition? The only item that was really missing was the Guns N' Roses You Could Be Mine music video. At a guess, I'd say it is more likely to be along the lines of Warner's Matrix Revisited release with all the new content being preview material for Terminator 3. .


woot woot...

thank god I still dont have this DVD:big grin:

Mischa
08-26-2002, 03:19 PM
All sales people are bastardz :mad:

Kn'thrak
08-27-2002, 01:04 AM
I'm not even going to get this dvd. I'll await for the trilogy boxset.
From alot of these DVD re-releasing, i've come to think its not a bad thing but actually a good thing. The DVD media is keeping upto to date with all the information and re-releasing their DVDs again with added stuff. This promotes the DVDs more and gives a chance for ppl who missed buying the dvds in the past.
This type of information is only bad for those freaks (non-insult) that want the features. Seriously.... how many times do u watch the features? Once or twice? Compare that to how many more times u watch the movie itself. SOmething like 20x more.
I'm happy with 2 discs for a single movie now. First disc containing the movie with a few features and a second disc full of features. ANything else is just a bonus for the future and nothing important.
We gotta stop thinking that more features means better dvd. Not true!

editman
08-27-2002, 06:48 AM
Originally posted by Kn'thrak
I'm not even going to get this dvd. I'll await for the trilogy boxset.

Mate, if you wanna wait, you may as well wait until they churn out T4... :evil:

Anyway, the current Ultimate Edition of T2 is only on R1. As you know, the only version on R4 is still the bare-bone DVD distributed by Columbia Tristar. (Well, comes with one of the trailers at least...)

Originally posted by Kn'thrak
This type of information is only bad for those freaks (non-insult) that want the features. Seriously.... how many times do u watch the features? Once or twice? Compare that to how many more times u watch the movie itself. SOmething like 20x more.

Sort of disagree. I acknowledge that new editions of the same movie may help persuading you to buy the DVD. Like, I boguht "The Mummy" when the "Ultimate Edition" came out. But after all, it all comes down to where you, as the buyer, draw the line.

For example, they did the same thing to MIB DVD - after the "Limited Edition", they release yet another special edition with preview of the sequel. But since I've got the LE, I have no desire to get the new edition because 1) I'm not a big fan of the movie and 2) the newly-added features in the new edition aren't enough to make me get another DVD of the same movie.

I won't mind getting multiple editions if 1) I like the movie so much so that anything related, even a featurette with tidbids of info or footages never-seen-before, interests me, (such as in the case of "Leon", "Basic Instinct", "Reservoir Dogs" or "The Usual Suspects"); or 2) the special feature itself is good enough to raise my interests, such as "The Silence of the Lambs", "The Exorcist" & "In the Mood for love" (mind you not that I don't like these movies, but it's more the features in the new edition that attracted me).

True, more special features doesn't equal better DVDs or movies. And I can tolerate studios releasing a bare-bone version of the movie then releasing a SE coupla months later. But releasing multiple "special editions" DVDs of the same movie is merely a very, very bad way of ripping people of (notoriously being practiced by Columbia and Artisan). What is the sole purpose behind this if not milking the cashcow till it all dries up?

If there's already one well-done special edition , "Ultimate Edition" if you may, why releasing yet another one instead of reprinting the previous one? How many copies of the new MIB SE do you think were sold when it came out with the sequel? How many do you think were sold now?

As in the case of T2, the "Ultimate Edition" is already well done. The only thing that can top it may be more deleted scenes (not bloody likely though). Sneak preview of T3? No thanks!

Kn'thrak
08-27-2002, 07:36 AM
Originally posted by editman


Mate, if you wanna wait, you may as well wait until they churn out T4... :evil:

Anyway, the current Ultimate Edition of T2 is only on R1. As you know, the only version on R4 is still the bare-bone DVD distributed by Columbia Tristar. (Well, comes with one of the trailers at least...)


T4? AS IF! Well.. not in the next 6 years or so. Highly unlikely. A trilogy jampacked with features is good enough. U can re-release a jamp-packed trilogy again but with only very little features. Hell... u could probably download it so y bother with a new set. T1 in R4 is cool and feature-full (2 discs) and was awaiting the 2 disc T2 but with T3 coming in a year, might as well wait for a cool boxset full of features.

editman
08-27-2002, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by Kn'thrak


T4? AS IF! Well.. not in the next 6 years or so. Highly unlikely. A trilogy jampacked with features is good enough. U can re-release a jamp-packed trilogy again but with only very little features. Hell... u could probably download it so y bother with a new set. T1 in R4 is cool and feature-full (2 discs) and was awaiting the 2 disc T2 but with T3 coming in a year, might as well wait for a cool boxset full of features.

You never know. If someone told me 5 years ago there'll be T3, I wouldn't believe it either. But there are rumours about a third sequel.

Hmmm... Terminator box-set down under? Not unless Columbia (which distributes T2 on DVD and T3 in cinemas next year) does a deal with MGM (which released T1 SE on DVD last year. BTW T1 R4 DVD does not have JC's commentary on deleted scenes or his new interviews in the docos as in the R1 version, but I have a feeling you wouldn't care much Kn'thrak...)

Then again, it was said that when T3's distribution right was pitched to studios, all 3 movies' DVD rights was also included as part of the deal. So maybe a box set will eventually come out in R4. Whether T1 will remain as it is now as a SE, no one knows...

The fact is, no one at this stage knows if a box-set will be released at all in Australia after T3 comes out. There's a fine definition between investing your time, saving your money in expecting an eventual outcome; and wasting time for something that may not be happen. No offence.

Kn'thrak
08-27-2002, 12:25 PM
LOL... there is ALWAYS a boxset. Check ANY trilogy!

I remember when i got all the Lethal Weapons and then few months later... a simple boxset was released. Same dvds just in a pretty cardboard box like all others. Hell.. there is even a Rush Hour boxset and Austin Powers with only the first 2 movies.
No matter what if a movie has a sequel or more then a boxset is always made. Hell again.... single movies have boxset themselves. LotR 4 disc for example :p ALWAYS!!!!! Some take longer than others but thats life!

No commentary for the deleted scenes? OH NO! Thats it. I'm not buying it. Might has well comment on that the dvd cover is a different colour and not exceptable :p

ALl i'm saying.. if u get the movie with an extra disc full of features... then thats very much exceptable for me and most of the consumers.
The fact that R4 doesn't have all the features that R1 has is that R4 is quite a fair bit away from R1. It takes time to encode all the dvds to be locked, crap, etc for regions. With Terminator, I remember when the SE came out in the U.S. but it never came out in R4. Few months ago they started to come in. Why so late? Many reasons.
Another thing, I ordered Mask Of Zorro from the U.S. years ago and was very happy. The movie wasn't even in the movies here and I already had it on DVD. Full of features, etc. When Mask Of Zorro finally hit R4, the features were slightly different. R1 had an extra interview that R4 didn't but R4 had deleted scenes that R1 didn't. Did i care? Didn't even think twice! Small features like that wouldn't have bothered me. All u need is the movie and a features disc if u want DVD enjoyment. I bet LotR will get more money from the 2 discs than the 4 disc will. Majority of consumers aren't like us. "OH.... the movie has been re-released in a cool new box colour. Lets spend our money on something slightly different which doesn't effect the contents of what your really buy."

In that way, Misha is right. ALl those sales ppl are bastards. THey prey on weakminded nerds :big grin: :D :big grin: that have the need for greed :embarasse
I was VERY close in buying Austin Powers boxset but then i heard that AP3 is being made, I'll hold out till a trilogy boxset. Thats the same reason y i haven't bought the Mummy BOxset. I have the first movie and want to buy the boxset with all the features but rumours are in play of a Mummy3 since Scorpion King did better than expected. I wonder if Scorpion King will have a boxset that includes the Mummy boxset combined. Its all possible!

I totally agree with u in they are ripping us off many special edition releases but in the end its your decision. To buy a movie with feature full or hold out to buy movie with features + an extra byte of features. A movie with 2 discs is good enough unless told in advance of a coming SUPER SE.

Hulkster
08-27-2002, 05:09 PM
The special edition of 1 and Ultimate edition for 2 are good enough for me. Great as a matter of fact.

trailergod
11-01-2002, 04:54 AM
more info

http://www.thearnoldfans.com/news/281.htm

A new DVD special edition Terminator boxset containing both T1 and T2 is in the works, according to TheArnoldFans. It will definitely be a 2-disc set, says MGM, who will release the boxset. Expect to see it just before the release of T3.

Next year, just before the Rise of the Machines, MGM Home Entertainment will release an all new DVD special edition boxset containing both T1 and T2.
Although this set will not become available until a date close to T3's release, we tried to get some info from MGM.

MGM: "At this time, I'm not sure of the title of the Terminator gift set. Our creative team will begin discussing the layout and title early next year. It will definitely be a two-disc set."
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