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02-27-2007, 09:02 PM #1
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Blu-ray Total Sales Surpass HD DVD
The HD format war continues, as Blu-ray takes the slight edge
The latest sales numbers appear to indicate that Blu-ray has taken the lead over HD DVD in terms of title sales since inception. According to Nielsen VideoScan First Alert data, cited by Home Media Magazine, Blu-ray has racked up a slight lead in unit sales -- 100 units to every 98.71 units of HD DVD.
Up until the recent market stats released by Nielsen VideoScan, HD DVD held the lead in overall titles sold. Some attribute HD DVD’s previous lead to the format’s head start and less expensive players. Blu-ray Discs experienced a considerable surge in sales following the holiday season, eclipsing HD DVD sales numbers by two to three times.
The launch of the PlayStation 3 helps explain Blu-ray’s increased pace, though Ken Graffeo, head of HD DVD affairs at Universal Studios Home Entertainment—an HD DVD-only supporter—isn’t convinced in Sony’s console sway. “Given that the life-to-date title sales ratios are close to 1:1, and given that Blu-ray has a 5:1 ratio right now on the hardware side due to the PS3, why aren’t Blu-ray software sales outpacing HD DVD by a similar ratio?” he asked. “In fact, HD DVD players continue to have an attach rate (life to date) that is more than five times that of Blu-ray players.”
Another facet to Blu-ray’s recent success could simply be due to greater availability of new titles. The current selection of movies on Blu-ray and HD DVD are neck-and-neck, but Blu-ray has released more titles as of late. According to Home Media Magazine, there have been 35 Blu-ray releases to 19 for HD DVD, many of which have been costlier HD DVD/DVD combo discs.
“Seeing HD DVD in our rear-view mirror is no surprise to us,” said David Bishop, worldwide home entertainment president, Sony Pictures Home Entertainment. “It has always been Sony’s position that there would be an inevitable migration from HD DVD to Blu-ray because of several factors, including the technical superiority of Blu-ray, the successful launch of PlayStation 3, the growing availability of BD playback machines and BD-enabled computers from the best consumer electronic brands in the world, as well as the growing number of hit titles being made available on the BD format.”
While executives of either HD DVD or Blu-ray exclusive studios thump their chests, movie studios such as Warner and Paramount appear happy to sell movies to the faithful on both sides. “We’re not in this for winning or losing,” said Steve Nickerson, SVP of market management for Warner Home Video. “Both formats are selling well on software.”You're waiting for a train, a train that will take you far away. You know where you hope this train will take you, but you can't be sure. But it doesn't matter - because we'll be together.
03-12-2007, 02:12 AM #2
Consumers bought around 250,000 units of Blu-ray movies during the month, compared to the estimated 125,000 units of HD DVD movies
I hope this trend continues, because I was fan of BR since the beginning. I did have some thinking of being HD-DVD fan, because before end of last year there were LOTS of trouble round BR format (delate, PS3 troubles and such ...). But the size still is its biggest weapon I guess.
I still hope BR will start encoding in VC-1 all the releases, because then it would be ultimate format....*thumbs up*
03-12-2007, 03:57 AM #3
How could you be BR fan, if you don't have BR player?
03-12-2007, 09:34 AM #4
lol, dats really stupid question. Thats like asking how could you b fan of astrology when you dont have your own star/planet in living room.
There are some quite simple answers
1) Its simply better technology and if one has to pick, mostly chooses the better one, doesnt he?
2) You dont need BR player to play HD content of discs on your PC
3) I have seen both BR rips and BR recodes on my PC, does that make me "more real fan"?
4) I actually have those rips and recodes
5) As for IT ind., I´d always pick BR for its bigger data size
6) I´m also fan of Mclaren Mercedes in F1 and I dont have their car at home either
- but then again, that would be stupid question asking how could I be their fan if I dont have their car, right? ....
I sell those BR players in my stores and I've been wanting to take one home but they are selling so well and the profit margin is so high, I will be taking food out of my own mouth!!
03-12-2007, 11:36 AM #6
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But no porno movie on blue-ray. think about that !
03-12-2007, 12:00 PM #7
You can be the fan of McLaren or Manchester Utd. because you can watch F1 or Premier Leauge games e.g. on your HD TV.
And, my friend. Astronomy not astrology.
Astronomy is the science of celestial objects (such as stars, planets, comets, and galaxies).Astrology is a group of systems, traditions, and beliefs in which knowledge of the relative positions of celestial bodies and related details is held to be useful in understanding, interpreting, and organizing information about personality, human affairs, and other terrestrial matters.
03-12-2007, 12:36 PM #8
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I am happy with these news. I am also a Blu-ray fan.
I found an article around 3 months ago about the first Blu-ray disc burner PC drive commented here in Venezuela. It was a model from Lite-On, very expensive but it can only work with 25 GB discs.
03-12-2007, 01:08 PM #9
Still remains the fact, that I did /and do/ watch BR movies without having the player (which doesnt mean that I wont have it in future). And of course I support it -a) by buying the discs as soon as they get to our market -b) buying the player as soon as I can. Might not b being technically support of the discs but of content /yet/, anyway I still can b fan of whatever I want. Or do I need to have a certificate for it?
Btw I´m fan of Slavia, which is Prague Football club, yet dont watch football at all. Its moreless family tradition. Moral support can mean being fan too.
Still the question remains needles and provocative, which makes it stupid for me
/maybe u could start offending jmcc that he cant b fan either/
Well, I think Mithrandir has a point there, you claim you already saw BR content. But can you for a fact say that it will be exactly be the same as a BR disc played on a BR player on your TV, cause that's what's it about for the average consumer. I myself am more a HD fan, simply because of the fact that it will be cheaper, some friends of mine like BR more cause it sounds alot more "fancy schmansy", I don't care. If BR were to come thrue as the winner I will embrace it, but for now, I think it can wait a while.
Btw, Mithrandir wasn't being provocative by asking you why you're a BR fan.I'm a mog, half man, half dog, I am my own best friend.
03-12-2007, 04:38 PM #11
Offending? If you think so... I'm sorry that you feel so. My mistake. I didn't expect this question may hurt.
And in this discuss about being a fan or not... I think we are both right, in some way. That's why I'll leave this problem now, behind me.
And I still respect you.
See you posting other threads.
03-12-2007, 04:49 PM #12
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I'm still convinced that HD-DVD will come out the winner.
The early releases of HD-DVD were superior in quality to Blue-Ray.
HD-DVD is cheaper.
Sony has never successfully launched a format (mini-disc, beta, etc).
And Playstation 3, which was supposed to give Blu-Ray a boost, isn't selling as well as they had hoped.
03-12-2007, 05:22 PM #13
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things are turning around, after the release of Gundam Masou, the sales of Playstation 3 are rising and the hype of Playstation has risen agen after the showcasing of Home and LittleBigPlanet (even tho they arent gona be released soon) but they seem to be having an affect on the sales figures....
most people that own a playstation 3 own a blu-ray disc... the same cant be said for xbox360 and hd-dvd. (even tho i own the hd-dvd player)
recent hype of the internet seems to be favouring blu-ray at the moment neways so i really do hope they win.... putting aside the consoles that are backing them up.. i purely want the disc with larger capacity to win. if that turns out to be hd-dvd in the future den i want them to win... but at the moment its blu-ray.
with my current hd-dvd collection ive noticed that i love the quality of the movies n stuff but i feel like they seriously lack space for extras n bonuses. And whats with my mission impossible 2 hd-dvd having less bonus features then my dvd?
also i jus bumped across this cool article over at IGN today: http://uk.dvd.ign.com/articles/771/771196p1.html
03-13-2007, 07:35 AM #14
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second month running:
Blu-ray edges out HD DVD in February
March 12, 2007 10:02
Columbus (OH) - For the second month in a row, Blu-ray Disc (BD) sales were about double that of HD DVD, according to recently released February sales data.
According to trade magazine Video Business, around 250,000 Blu-ray movies were sold last month. HD DVD sales, on the other hand, totaled 125,000.
During January, Blu-ray received a similar sales edge over HD DVD. Many attributed the advantage to the fact that BD has more studio support and a bigger library of movies, meaning that sales of individual titles were not necessarily greater than HD DVD. However, in the same article, Video Business reported on a format comparison for one movie. The Departed, which was released on both Blu-ray and HD DVD, sold about 20,000 and 13,000 for the two formats, respectively.
HD DVD backers like Universal and Toshiba claim this is just a fad for PS3 owners who really haven't claimed a devotion to the Blu-ray format. Universal also fired back by saying that the Blu-ray hardware/software tie ratio is low, considering the volume of PS3 units that have been sold.
At an HDTV conference last week, noted speaker Vito Mandato made the claim that the total number of hardware sales for both formats is about the same, after one weeds out all the PS3s that are not being used to play Blu-ray movies.
10-26-2007, 05:31 AM #15
Blu-ray outsels HD-DVD even in its strongest week
Just reporting ...
Blu-ray Disc maintains its edge in the format war with rival next-gen contender HD DVD, with Blu-ray titles outselling HD DVD titles by a margin of almost two to one in the first nine months of this year.
According to a study by Home Media Magazine’s market research department, consumers bought 2.6 million Blu-ray Discs this year through Sept. 30, and just 1.4 million HD DVD discs.
Blu-ray Disc titles began outselling HD DVD titles early in the year and have consistently maintained an edge, week after week. Even Paramount Home Entertainment’s release of the DreamWorks theatrical blockbuster Transformers exclusively on the HD DVD format didn’t tip the scale last week. Though there was no hot new Blu-ray Disc release, consumers continued to buy more Blu-ray Discs than HD DVDs for the week ended Oct. 21, albeit by a slim 51% to 49% edge. Paramount says Transformers sold 190,000 units its first week in stores, but Home Media Magazine market research and studio estimates puts the actual number of units that sold through to consumers closer to 115,000.
HD DVD backers expect to see sales pick up as the fourth quarter progresses, particularly now that Paramount and DreamWorks, which previously supported both high-definition optical disc formats, announced it would henceforth release titles only in the HD DVD format.
Most analysts still see the format war as too close to call and predict both formats will continue to co-exist as the audience for high-definition discs continues to increase, growth that likely would occur faster if there was only one format.
Blu-ray Disc continues to enjoy the lion’s share of studio and consumer electronics manufacturer support. Among the six major studios, four support Blu-ray, three of them exclusively: Sony Pictures Home Entertainment, 20th Century Fox Home Entertainnment and Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment. Warner Home Video releases titles in both Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD, while Universal Studios Home Entertainment and now Paramount are exclusively in the HD DVD camp.
Now I know there´ve been some BOGO actions all over the place, but ... so what? It won even against Transformers! BOGO is now very often use of excuse for HD-DVD camp and it has some point, however its BS imo.
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