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04-20-2003, 09:52 PM #16Trailer Fanatic
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Originally posted by carl
Damn right the story wasn't original but that doesn't matter with Equilibrium because it doesn't attempt to be anything it's not. Like every popcorn movie it has a morality tale to tell without going into it on more than a surface level. Unlike films like Minority Reoprt and Matrix though it doesn't pretend to be a deep movie. Very strong performance by Bale aswell, with a cameo from Sean Beane.
BTW people should really see this on the big screen but can't because a film without Matrix's budget now get's ignored.
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The Matrix is deeper than either Minority Report or Equilibrium. Both of the latter are deeper than your average summer fare. Sound simple enough?
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04-20-2003, 11:23 PM #18Trailer Fanatic
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So you are calling Michael Bay's masterpieces not deep enough?
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First of all i said it was not soooooo original, but that's because hardly any theme has not been used in a movie yet. Second, don't base ur opinion on a review because as we all know different people have different thouhgt about movie. Equilibrium is a great movie. And I don't know how this Michael Bay thing came up but anyone who says he's a bad director is an idiot. Some of my favorite movies were directed by him.
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Originally posted by Equinox
1) This movie is as deep as Minority Report. 2) Sean Bean have supporting role much large than cameo. If you don't know what cameo is, look at Brad Pitt and Matt Damon in Confessions of a Dangerous Mind. 3) Films without Matrix's budget are not ignored. If a $5m movie has enough hype, it will earn a lot of money. Look at My Greek Wedding for example. 4) I saw it on the big screen and there were only a few people in theater. It failed, because it didn't had any promotion.
2) Cameo or not. It was too small for a starring or supporting part so I called it a cameo. Does that really matter it was still a good thing and I wish he'd been in it more.
3)My Big Fat Greek Wedding wasn't an action film so the target audience was different. The target audience for movies like Equilibrium are interested in the effects and the explosions so a smaller budget goes ignored and the studio refuses to spend lots more money on advertising.
Originally posted by blugh
The Matrix is deeper than either Minority Report or Equilibrium. Both of the latter are deeper than your average summer fare. Sound simple enough?
Originally posted by Jak616
First of all i said it was not soooooo original, but that's because hardly any theme has not been used in a movie yet. Second, don't base ur opinion on a review because as we all know different people have different thouhgt about movie. Equilibrium is a great movie. And I don't know how this Michael Bay thing came up but anyone who says he's a bad director is an idiot. Some of my favorite movies were directed by him.Last edited by carl; 04-21-2003 at 03:29 PM.
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some1 tell me WHAT DEEP means ?!?!?!
and how could you guys directly compare a movie costing $20m (equilibrium) vs $100M for Matrix and Fight Club
Equilibrium is a B movie, its budget tells us that, but it delivered very well with what resources it had and this made the movie good.... and PLEASE... Christian Bale is 100X better than those boneheads Keanu and Brad...
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Originally posted by tisoy
some1 tell me WHAT DEEP means ?!?!?!
and how could you guys directly compare a movie costing $20m (equilibrium) vs $100M for Matrix and Fight Club
Equilibrium is a B movie, its budget tells us that, but it delivered very well with what resources it had and this made the movie good.... and PLEASE... Christian Bale is 100X better than those boneheads Keanu and Brad...
The Matrix on the other hand is the equivelent of a person who pretends to know more than they do. (before anyone comments, I am not pretending to be a film genious just pointing out the facts that I do know, and I've already explained why my username used to be moviebuff so don't go there). It avoids any issues it doesn't know about then disguises it's lack of insight inside overly complicated dialogue that sounds insightfull. The one, the oracle or my favourite line "There is no spoon." The line added nothing than if he'd said "It's not real", but because it sounds deep and insigtfull it was used. A Deep film would have used dialogue that questioned reality or our own perceptions instead of just acting like it was more imporatant than it actually was.
I know, a long, pretentious and unnesisary post to say a Deep film is a Deep film.
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I didn't say anything about fight clubna it didn't cost $100 million!
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04-27-2003, 10:48 PM #25Trailer Collector
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now i wanna see it
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It looks like a Matrix wannebe movie to me the last time I saw the trailer for it.
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04-28-2003, 12:57 AM #27Trailer Collector
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the one that looks like a matrix wanna be to me is bulletproof monk (i have not seen so if its good then dont be flaming)
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I saw a clip from this movie at Stormwalker's house, and I was really really impressed, and also mightily pissed off that IT'S NOT GOING TO BE PLAYED AT THE CINEMAS IN MY LOCAL TOWN!! IT IS SUPREMELY WICKED, GUN KATA IS THE MOST NOVEL CINEMATIC FIGHTING TECHNIQUE FOR A LOOOOOOOOONG TIME.....
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04-28-2003, 08:21 AM #29
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still waiting for it on video hehe.. might have to hijack a uni lecture theatre and have a movie night hehehehe
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Originally posted by bizdady
the one that looks like a matrix wanna be to me is bulletproof monk (i have not seen so if its good then dont be flaming)
I love this. Ever since we flamed GF for liking The Matrix so much everyones become afraid. Always cautious to say In my opinion, or I know it's not original before they admit to liking it, or being carefull how they word the dislike of a film when they're not sure how it's been embraced by the audience. Fear not, I think only Radstar saw bullet proof monk and liked it, anbd she'll leave you alone as long as you don't disrespect old Momma's boy named "Dwayne".
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