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    Thumbs down 'Try Another Day' (spoilers)

    I am a big 007 fan but this has to be the worse Bond movie I have seen in recent history.......

    I expected it to be bad, but god not this bad, this movie simply is over the top sci fi which usually belongs to movies like Charlie's Angels.... =P

    This is one of the weakest Bond films destined to sit on the shelf alongside Moonraker, Octopussey and Tomorrow Never Dies.

    There is a great opening credit sequence, gritty and exciting and showing a real edge to Bond and a side of him that we haven't seen... then Madonna song comes on...it is ****ing awfull !!

    The set pieces are ridiculous, the CGI is at times laughable, there is quite simply the worst CGI scene in film history in this film, it looks like a computer game -... blah

    The theme of this film is too much towards sci-fi, and tooo much pop corn..... Madonnas cameo is out of place and obviously her payment for singing the theme.

    take it ..... the parachute and snowboard scene.. I mean HOW the Hell does an OLD FART like Pierce Brosnan do that...?
    and the final airplane fight scene was excellently over-the-top... this is not Matrix ..... this is James Bond 007, its suppose to have British elegance and character... but it has bacome an American pop corn fick/flick....

    The moment I got out of the theatre I already forgot what the hell I just watched... another Bond film with a Bad guy trying to use a satellite to take over the world?... hey i think that was the same story from the last 3 Bond movies...

    btw Bourne Identity 10x better than this Bond film and the next 007 is this guy

    this year for me was

    Die Another Day: not enjoyable nonsense.

    The Bourne Identity: enjoyable nonsense.

    xXx: some enjoyable nonsense.
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    The point of xXx was to make a 007 for todays generation.. and it works perfectly. Loved it for that. Current 007 flicks are going down in quality but I'm still looking forward to Die Another Day (seeing tomororw). 007 is trying to keep its pants on and beat xXx which is different. 007 has lost its type of genre movie... a purely spy movie. I guess some blame can go with Russian being allies now but Hollywood wants to show that but its only fiction stories and movies. U can still carry on spy stuff between the most powerful countires.

    Agreed thats its too much of a popcorn flick. Mystery is what 007 is about!
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    hey,
    i liked bond, and DAD, and the new movies, and Brosnan, they're different from the old bonds/movies, which makes it unique
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    waiting to see it on DVD

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    Originally posted by Kn'thrak
    The point of xXx was to make a 007 for todays generation.. and it works perfectly. Loved it for that. Current 007 flicks are going down in quality but I'm still looking forward to Die Another Day (seeing tomororw). 007 is trying to keep its pants on and beat xXx which is different. 007 has lost its type of genre movie... a purely spy movie. I guess some blame can go with Russian being allies now but Hollywood wants to show that but its only fiction stories and movies. U can still carry on spy stuff between the most powerful countires.

    Agreed thats its too much of a popcorn flick. Mystery is what 007 is about!
    I disagree. xXx and 007 are totally different. While the 007 series relies heavily on convoluted plots and the same lovable old James Bond, xXx insults its viewers with action sequences that do not compliment the plot. It also insults the viewer's intelligence, while the James Bond series has always carried on coherent and sometimes very complex storylines.
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    Originally posted by MovieDetective
    I disagree. xXx and 007 are totally different. While the 007 series relies heavily on convoluted plots and the same lovable old James Bond, xXx insults its viewers with action sequences that do not compliment the plot. It also insults the viewer's intelligence, while the James Bond series has always carried on coherent and sometimes very complex storylines.
    Well stated there!
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    Originally posted by MovieDetective
    I disagree. xXx and 007 are totally different. While the 007 series relies heavily on convoluted plots and the same lovable old James Bond, xXx insults its viewers with action sequences that do not compliment the plot. It also insults the viewer's intelligence, while the James Bond series has always carried on coherent and sometimes very complex storylines.
    Thats exactly what I said.... with the added that 007 is trying to be like xXx now. Big mistake!!!

    If xXx was insulting... why such a huge profit and just about everyone liked it? Thats just saying, its like sticking ur head in a bucket of acid and enjoying the experience

    The last good 007 was GoldenEye. It was so old style 007 it was just too good. *dreams about Tank scene*

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    Originally posted by Kn'thrak

    If xXx was insulting... why such a huge profit and just about everyone liked it? Thats just saying, its like sticking ur head in a bucket of acid and enjoying the experience
    Well xXx's target audience is generally only concerned with the special effects and music and overall "badass"ness of the movie. I'm not denying that the movie is probably very entertaining if you appreciate films like that. I can't ask everyone to think the same way I do.

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    Having seen all three spy movies, I'd rank 'em as follows:

    1)Tie: DAD and Bourne
    2)xXx

    Now, I really liked all three. Bourne was a perfect old-school 007 movie, even if it wasn't Bond. DAD is a damn-near perfect modernized Bond movie, with enough plot and intrigue to satisfy spy junkies and enough solid action to satisfy those who just want a popcorn flick. xXx was 2 hours of loud, mindless action.
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    I've got to admit DAD is not (yet?) my favourite Bond.

    For one thing technical I don't like the blue screen/green screen effect. Looks fake with blurred edges. It may work in Minority Report but not Bond.

    The laser fight scene did remind me of computer game.

    Mind you it's a homage to the last 19th "official" Bond film so if it's over-the-top it's a "homage to the over-the-tops".

    On a five-star scale, I give a five. Four goes to the girl who'd been a good sport and went to the movie with me.

    Need to see it again to make up my mind when it comes out on DVD cos I've gotta admit, I wasn't paying much attention on screen.

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    Originally posted by editman
    Four goes to the girl who'd been a good sport and went to the movie with me
    Girls Girls Girls ... any other hobbies besides that editman? :butt:

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    Originally posted by Mischa
    Girls Girls Girls ... any other hobbies besides that editman? :butt:
    Movies, sex and occasionally saving the world. Don't want nothing more. Don't need nothing more.

    For Editman, work is play. Play is work. That is my destiny. I work hard. I play hard. Why right this moment I'm bloody working.

    I had no frirends and never will have any. I am the lonelist person in the whole wide world. A lighthouse keeper at the fringe of the world standing guide for nobody. A spare part. A placebo.

    Because, ultimately, I am just an ungrateful bastard.

    There. You got me started.

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    sounds like u are the lost 009 agent :big grin:

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    cgi is not the be all and end all and other stuff

    i have a big problem with people whinging about cgi in movies, especially when the movie isnt cgi orientated.

    if the film was starwars, star trek, ice age any other film where cgi plays a major part then yes your complaint is warrented and in these situations the poor effects would detract from the film.

    that said, in a film series like bond since when has special effects mattered.. think back to the glory days of bond.. yes back in the 60's when cgi wasnt even invented.. think roger skiing infront of the blue screen (clearly obvious)... did it matter NO! did it matter that in moonraker bond had a laser gun, but that technology mysteriously dissapeared for the next bond movie.. (it would have definatly replaced his walther for sure!!)

    xXx was horrible.. it was trash there was no excuse for it... the crap that is said that its James Bond for a new generation.. what a load of bull.. its a studio head's idea of a wet dream.. whack Vin Diesel who is popular at the moment (dont ask why.. but if you talk to any 16 year old girl its not because of his acting talent.. its all visual.. no cgi there!!) anyway i digress vin apparently appeals to a young stupid target audience.. rev heads.. and most white people trying to be black, apparently vin does not want the world to know his true genetic background for fear of loosing his confused hispanic/caucasian demographic.

    CGI is overrated.. you go and rent out films like willow, neverending story, labryinth... i dare you to try and tell me that the animatronics detract from the story.. these movies still managed to create a fantasy that captured my imagination... i love and cherish these movies just as much as i do the fellowship of the ring... compare the effects in the films?? and think about what exactly CGI does contribute to the film.. all CGI is accomplishing is making audiences stupid.. part of what made some films so great is the fact that much of the effects were not there.. the audiences mind filled in the gaps, there own imagination joined the dots.. now with CGI filmmakers are getting lazy, they would rather spoon feed the new generation with effects rather than let us figure it out for ourselves.. dont believe me.. think about the classic monster horror film.. im going to use jaws as my example.. you never saw jaws for much of the film.. the threat and imagining the threat was up to you. the horror you experienced was largely contributed to your own imagination kicking in and manifesting your own shark.. now think about modern films.. think mimic 2, jeepers creepers.. the cgi is available now to create a monster and show it, does this help the movie.. NO!! the actual monster is not even half as scary as something your imagination could have thought up on its own!


    anyway.. i loved die another day, i felt it was by far one of the best bond films.. i spent a good 2 hours talking with friends outside the cinema.. and then on the internet afterwards, discussing how sean and roger would be sitting by reminiscing, discussing the references hidden in the movie.. Lee Tamahori has done a fantastic job, i want him back for the next bond film.. david arnold seemed bored with this score.. he had it nailed with the score for the world is not enough.. and seemed to just recycle old cues.. especially evident in tracks from the soundtrack such as iced inc.

    madonnas song is number 1! not a very good bond song, but a god damn great song to advertise a movie with, and garner interest for the film.. plus i have no doubt next time i venture out at night i will hear a bond song being played over a gigantic sub and several pairs of 6x9.. and to be honest nothing will make me happier.. if only i could have a martini to complement it with!..

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