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I Spit on Your Grave - trailer 1 (480x256)
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04-01-2004, 11:26 PM
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What? Trailer for this movie? i mean, wasn't takeshi kitano insane enough to show kids killing each other ? and now we got rape movies ? i never saw this movie, but while searching for monica bellucci movies on imdb, i found irreversible (people tell me the most brutal rape scenes are in it) , and the other recommendations was this movie, and i found out on reading it was worse. i mean, do we really need these kind of movies? movies were meant to be funny, comic, tragic , hard-hitting , or just plain fun!! but this is really idiotic stuff to show on big-screen!i mean, what do they want to show here, what's their point? i know my views may offend some people who are into this kind of cinema, but pls i don't mean anything personal!! these are just my views on this kind of cinema!
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It may be hard for you to believe, but I'm actually really impressed with your comment, neo.
'I Spit On Your Grave' is undoubtably an exploitation movie - and a bad one too. On the DVD itself the director tries to defend that his movie is not trying to victimise women etc. Sugarcoating as much as he could, if one doesn't find the low-budget production unintentionally 'funny', it will offend people one way or the other - either for the gang rape in the first half, or the woman taking brutal revenge on the second half.
Do we really need these kind of movies? Good question. Conisder film as an artform, film as entertainment, and film as a commercial product. Movies like this may not be the first two (artistic or entertaining), but as a commercial product it always has its market.
Controversy itself is a pre-sale for some audiences - people will go to see a movie simply because it is NC-17/R-rated/Category III, or if the government's threatening to ban it, no matter how crappy the movie is. That's why films like 'Irreversible', 'Basie Moi', 'Ken Park' and others draws a crowd.
Not trying to answer neo's question, just throwing my two-cents (now only worth one-cent) in. 
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I don't like this movie, but it did have an effect on me... I was really depressed after watching it.
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04-02-2004, 01:20 AM
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so, finally editman is impressed by my comments, cool! ya, i know controversy sells, many movies even in india are being intentionally controversized by the makers to sell them, and they get a good opening, but they turn out to be the baddest trash movie u can ever see!! i guess this is why they call it "industry", 'coz things got to sell, right, by hook, or by crook!
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so, finally editman is impressed by my comments, cool!
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I appreciate people who posts intellectual comments worthy of further discussions.
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many movies even in india are being intentionally controversized by the makers to sell them, and they get a good opening, but they turn out to be the baddest trash movie u can ever see!!
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Being unfamiliar with the Indian cinema (one of the most under-represented world cinemas by the West), I'm curious to know what kind of controversial movies your region would produce, neo? I mean certainly it won't be graphic sex and/or violence, considering the strict(?) censorship?
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i guess this is why they call it "industry", 'coz things got to sell, right, by hook, or by crook!
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Still, Bollywood is impressive for the quantity of films made every year. Alas if only the Australian cinema is like that, we'll all be filmmakers by now. (That's just a filmmaker wannabe taking a piss on the Australian film industry. Nothing more.  )
BTW Just for the record, they do show Indian films in one or two cinemas regularly in Melbourne. Never ventured myself into one, though.
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Indian cinema is one of the world's best (check out lagaan,sholay,kal ho naa ho, munnabhai mbbs) and many good movies are made each year, but some idiots try to cash in on the controversy with their crappy movies, but ya know u can't do anything against them!! and ya know, sex based movies are selling like hot cakes here too, despite being awesomely bad!! strange!!still, sometimes weirdness rocks, this movie flopped, but i found it amusing : check out a cool,weird,good,bad,ugly indian movie (it's in english) : Everybody Says I'm Fine (director: Rahul bose), also see monsoon wedding, they have doses of sex/sex talks and talks of sexual abuse thrown in for no good!! i mean those portions could have been skipped but still!!
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Monsoon Wedding was shown here in Melbourne last year in some of our 'major arthouse cinemas'. Didn't see it, but I'd heard about the film does contain some sexual references.
Speaking of which, I watched 'Salaam Bomboy' many MANY years ago on TV, so long ago I don't even remember if I've actually seen it.  But if I did, that's pretty much the only Indian film on my viewed list.
Looking at Lagaan's info on IMDB (presumbly the 2001 film?) - Runtime: 224 minutes!  And it's available on R1...
Oh I also saw a 10-minute short film titled Mulit recently. It's an Indian-British-US co-production, shown in some of the local short film festivals. I got hold of a mini-DVD distributed for free(!). After watching it, I'm not sure if it's a parody of the Indian musical genre or it really is a typical Indian musical. I may send the file (trailer and/or the actual short) up to the public FTP later on.
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What? Trailer for this movie? i mean, wasn't takeshi kitano insane enough to show kids killing each other ? and now we got rape movies ? i never saw this movie, but while searching for monica bellucci movies on imdb, i found irreversible (people tell me the most brutal rape scenes are in it) , and the other recommendations was this movie, and i found out on reading it was worse. i mean, do we really need these kind of movies? movies were meant to be funny, comic, tragic , hard-hitting , or just plain fun!! but this is really idiotic stuff to show on big-screen!i mean, what do they want to show here, what's their point? i know my views may offend some people who are into this kind of cinema, but pls i don't mean anything personal!! these are just my views on this kind of cinema!
P.S. : Hey, sexmaniac, nothing against u, buddy!!
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Though I appreciate your comments, and I'll say that I haven't seen or read about this movie in particular... I disagree with the statement that movies should be funny, comic, tragic, etc.
I don't think that we should censor the subjects that movie's tackle at all.
Sure, some may offend us if we disagree with they're views. And some are done for exloitation's sake. But a director should be able to express his opinon, no matter how taboo or explicit.
We all have the right to not like it, or not watch it.
(To give an example, we recently had a trailer encoded that I will not host on Movie-List because of the amount of explicit material in it. Although I have no problem with someone making the movie, I've chosen not to put it on my site because I think it crosses the/my line.)
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04-02-2004, 06:01 AM
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ya u are right jpb, but those were just my views, i mean, who am i to ban anyone, we've got so much porno floating around, and we can't do shite! i guess this is life!i guess we all have certain reservations about things in life, this one was mine!anyways, let's 4get about this stuff and move on, right?!
P.S. : Editman, go on and watch lagaan on dvd (check if it's subbed , coz u won't understand hindi)! it is cool!!i haven't seen salaam bombay but my elders told me it was not a movie which "a minor should watch"?! pls, can u tell me the story?!
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haven't heard of MULIT, but tell u what, go and see "American Desi"( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0203289/) it's a indian-US mixed breed movie, and has light humuor and is a good movie!!
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P.S. : Editman, go on and watch lagaan on dvd (check if it's subbed , coz u won't understand hindi)!
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I shall, someday... (after I finish hecking through all other DVDs I've bought  )
I'm sure it's subtitled, since it's a R1 DVD.
Anyway, back to 'I Spit On Your Grave'. I think the biggest interest point of this film is Camille Keaton. Being the grand-niece of the legenary Buston Keaton, this is one of the two films she is remembered of. (The other being 'What Have You Done to Solange?', which is also an exploitation film in the 70s. And I will UL the trailer to the FTP soon.  )
BTW the trailer sm encoded and posted is with better picture quality, but missing title cards in front and after.
The first two appears before the trailer starts. The rest appears after.
(I was going to UL screengrabs of these title cards as GIFs, but for some reasons I can't UL them - it always gives me an invalid link error  )
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The last two title cards.
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04-02-2004, 12:24 PM
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ok, cool!!
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and I do hope this movie is meant as ENTERTAINMENT !!!!! ... for sickos like us... hehehe
really i get off this stuff... (kidding)
just trying to say that theres an audience for everything in this world, YES even for things like these
but where do we draw the line? if we allow murder and historical movies of WAR, can we allow trashy B movie like these? where do we draw the line?
do we allow movie with pedophilia content? rape? or "snuff"
well my opinion is .... there is no line in "art", its "not real" and movies, most movies hopefully are only "simulation" of what it tries to depict. Its only a movie, it maybe trashy and shitty, but its not real. You dont like it, then don't watch it. You want the real thing, then turn on the TV and watch the news as it shows as the real thing...
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