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    Past Tense - Batman Fights Robots Part III


    Why do all the machines, Terminators have mechanized sounds? That noise wasn't there before.

    Answered above. These are much earlier, noisy models. That was something I DID like.

    - - -

    My heart is human. My blood is boiling. My brain, IBM.
    - Styx

    Why doesn't Marcus realize there's something different about him? Throughout the film before the big reveal, he goes through a lot and walks everything off - stuff that would've killed a normal person.

    Perhaps caught in the moment or didn't consider it far fetch - just lucky. Marcus woke up to post-apocalypse future where Man is hunted down by machines. Lets say that the side of improbability was a pretty dull edge at this point - anything is possible.

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    What does SkyNet want with all those people its captured?

    They are being experimented on.

    History has been altered. The T-800 series is being made - years earlier than it should. The first cyborgs are coming into existence; living flesh over an endoskeleton - organic growth takes forty days to complete as seen by the gathered intel.

    The teaser for "Terminator 2" showed the robot factory and the creation of the flesh covered machines. The whole process took less than a minute to complete; a quick assembly line.

    Presumably, all those unfortunates are being used to accelerate tissue maturation.

    But the source intel could very well be exaggeration. SkyNet wanted the resistance to find that data and the hidden carrier signal; so forty days could be forty minutes or four hours. *shrugs*

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    Why is this happening now (2018)?

    Unknown. So much tampering has been done to the time line, there's no telling what solid events have becoming fluid.

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    Why does SkyNet even know about Kyle? He wasn't even a blip on it radar. Or for that matter, why does it know about John? At this point in the war, John wasn't the leader of the resistance - he was just some guy. It doesn't know he will defeat it.

    The answer; the T-X (Kristanna Loken) from "Terminator 3".

    It's conceivable that when the Terminatrix uploaded the SkyNet virus (onto the cyber hood), she also included future knowledge for the A.I., an advantage on resistance. Remember, she was in 2003 to accelerate SkyNet's existence, future data is relevant and vital. This explains the following scene between SkyNet in Dr. Kogan form (on a big screen) and Marcus...

    Our best machines have failed time and again to complete a mission. Something was missing. We had to think. Radically. And so we made you. We created the perfect infiltration machine. You, Marcus. You did what SkyNet has failed to do for so many years - you killed John Connor.
    In this iteration, it knows about the then futures, yes plural.

    John must to be stopped!

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    When John was testing the anti-Terminator signal, he blows up a car to attract the attention of an Aerial Hunter Killer. But later once John realizes Marcus isn't human, there's a resistance base wide extermination for him - massive amount of explosions and spent rounds; loud noises and bright flashes. Did they NOT know that would attract every Terminator from miles around?

    This can not be rescued; poor writing - a legitimate plot hole.

    - - -

    Did SkyNet already know about the secret human base? There were Hydrobots (snake Terminators) in the nearby river. Did these machines just swim up because of the ruckus or were they there collecting data for some time?

    A plot hole.

    - - -

    How was John able to drive the Moto-Terminator? It's has no handle bars or anything that would give John control.

    John hacked the cycle with his computer which would allow him to steer the vehicle, throttle and break - from his portable hacker device. Not a logic hole.

    All John has to do is hold on tight and have a free hand to command. Or re-program to a particular location and just hold tight. Either way, not an issue.

    - - -

    Once SkyNet had Kyle why not just kill him, no more John - after all he's his father.

    The problem is that someone else would be send back in time (at a later date) to protect Sarah; becoming the new father... John Connor lives! Too many woes with that temporal edit.



    The 1992 Terminator comic mini-series, "Endgame" (from Dark Horse Comics; written by James Robinson with art by Jackson Guice and John Beatty), so much time travel have created something unexpected; Sarah gives birth to a daughter (on October 4th, 1984), named Jane. She stops SkyNet sooner than John, before it can create time travel. 1999 trade paper back cover shown above.

    A reset is far too dangerous; Kyle has far more worth as bait; John WILL COME to rescue him.

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    When Marcus hacks into SkyNet's defenses, there is a quick screen moment of the North Gun Turret going from 100% to 0% active. Shouldn't the mode just be ON and Off?

    This place and Kyle's abduction was used to lure and assassinate John. If things did not go as plan (Conner not coming alone), SkyNet had to give the impression that it was fighting back an assault by John and his men.

    She wants him inside of her to snuff out. Just to give a portrayal that it was giving its all. Once John entered the building it would've gone back to 100% and killed the rest of his men. But all is moot since Marcus did her work. There is a third broader reason... later.

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    Why not just use the turret and shoot as he was coming in?

    How many times has various Terminators tried to do that very same thing? Many. How many succeed? None. She need him inside to be absolutely sure.

    Think of it from her perspective - John Connor is almost a demigod. No matter what she does he survives to battle her.

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    Marcus' interactions with virtual Dr. Kogan; why is the heart of this complex designed with screens, keyboards and physical input devices? It is 'bot world; shouldn't the place just be one wi-fi hub - where machines just wirelessly connect to manipulate?



    This has been cinema question that pre-dates "The Terminator"; going all the way back to 1978's "Battlestar Galactica" - it had a limited theatrical release before airing on TV (ABC) and becoming a series.
    Last edited by JohnIan101; 07-15-2019 at 05:53 AM.

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