Why I hate 2001 A Space Odyssey

[IceGambit]

Wow, this has become heated.

carl, you do bring up some interesting points. I will give you credit for watching the film that you dislike, and conducting a genuinely thorough study of it.

I personally see the film as a great accomplishment. It settles me to look back on a film so rich in meaning, as you said. When all the crap that comes out today has nothing of value at all.

I imagine that the modern movie-goer would think the movie was confusing and boring, and I think that is sad. But it means something that you understand it and still dislike it, carl.

Thank you for not being ignorant.

[Terraner]

Originally posted by carl
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As for the other word you mentioned, I admit, I don't have a damn clue what it means.

Well, I won't go into science vs. religion disscusion, becouse I don't belive completly in evolutione either. But still I am trying to have an open mind!

Anyway, you certanly heard about <a href="http://catholicoutlook.com/whatisgeo.html">geocentism</a> or <a href="http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliocentrism">heliocentrism</a>. So, <a href="http://courses.ent.iastate.edu/ent211/stories/storyReader$7">anthropocentrism</a> is of course human centered. This is just short explanations. You can find more about any of three terms on Net (google).
Which leads to the rest of the word, namely "anti". So you can figure it out its exactly oposit of human-centered.

So, what I am trying to say is that we humans in general arn't heliocentric or geocentric (at least most of humanity isn't), but are still preaty anthropocentric or even just europocentric!. And that is what I am searching in Scifi. Proofs that humans arn't the center of the univers, rather we are preaty unsignificant. Most prominent exampels are also 2001, Hichighers Guide Through the Galaxy, all the works of <a href="http://www.cyberiad.info/english/main.htm">Stanislaw Lem</a> (Pilot Pirx Stolies, Invincible /that's a story they should put on screens/, Eden, Fiasco, Solaris, The Star Diars, etc. /in fact almost anything from Lem would be worth filming!/)

[carl]

Originally posted by IceGambit
Wow, this has become heated.

Well a few posts between Deacens and me were heated but all the rest is harmless ribbing.

Thank you for not being ignorant.

No problem. I had to try reaaaaaly hard to understand the film, so at least you didn't try and tell me I'd like it if I understood it. Thanks for that.

Originally posted by Terraner
Anyway, you certanly heard about <a href="http://catholicoutlook.com/whatisgeo.html">geocentism</a> or <a href="http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliocentrism">heliocentrism</a>. So, <a href="http://courses.ent.iastate.edu/ent211/stories/storyReader$7">anthropocentrism</a> is of course human centered. This is just short explanations. You can find more about any of three terms on Net (google).
Which leads to the rest of the word, namely "anti". So you can figure it out its exactly oposit of human-centered.

So, what I am trying to say is that we humans in general arn't heliocentric or geocentric (at least most of humanity isn't), but are still preaty anthropocentric or even just europocentric!. And that is what I am searching in Scifi. Proofs that humans arn't the center of the univers, rather we are preaty unsignificant. Most prominent exampels are also 2001, Hichighers Guide Through the Galaxy, all the works of <a href="http://www.cyberiad.info/english/main.htm">Stanislaw Lem</a> (Pilot Pirx Stolies, Invincible /that's a story they should put on screens/, Eden, Fiasco, Solaris, The Star Diars, etc. /in fact almost anything from Lem would be worth filming!/)

Thanks for the explanation. I agree that it's a good theme for Science Fiction. It's mostly done best in the science fiction novels though, films usually make stories fantasy not sci fi. Fifth Element, Star Wars ect... andc they usually place humans as the saviours of the universe. Damn Clechaes.

[Terraner]

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Well a few posts between Deacens and me were heated but all the rest is harmless ribbing.
No problem. I had to try reaaaaaly hard to understand the film, so at least you didn't try and tell me I'd like it if I understood it. Thanks for that.


Thanks for the explanation. I agree that it's a good theme for Science Fiction. It's mostly done best in the science fiction novels though, films usually make stories fantasy not sci fi. Fifth Element, Star Wars ect... andc they usually place humans as the saviours of the universe. Damn Clechaes.

It took me a long time to answere that, but I am in the mood today! :big grin:
So, even Fifth Element, Star Wars and such examples are in a way just point on the 'i' (don't know better phrase) on the proof about anthropocentrizm!